tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post1105436038070978239..comments2024-03-29T08:56:16.328+02:00Comments on Gay Warfare: The Gift of DeathUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-18534814713687640502011-11-12T18:59:39.798+02:002011-11-12T18:59:39.798+02:00This is a wonderful post on a horrific subject. I...This is a wonderful post on a horrific subject. It's been going on for sometime now and there was for a while a lot of talk that it was started as some sort of 'therapy' by one of those gay cure 'churches' affiliated to Exodus, although I can find little proof of that, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.<br /><br />There have been a few cases of positive people infecting others on purpose without the other knowing, which have gone to court and have been found guilty of manslaughter here in the UK. <br /><br />I think we as humans are a pretty strange bunch, we like to be healthy yet choose to do things that are not healthy, that may kill us, like smoking, drink driving, base jumping and bug chasing seems to be the most extreme of these.<br /><br />And the word verification for this comment was 'comed'Jason Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04097132229638807046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-31299339803942345262010-01-19T01:16:21.812+02:002010-01-19T01:16:21.812+02:00I've only heard of "seed" and "...I've only heard of "seed" and "breed" ...terms used to infect others on purpose but without them knowing it.<br /><br />Thanks for this articleDarrinhttp://savedbyslowdeath.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-23119743367167952572009-12-07T16:22:51.261+02:002009-12-07T16:22:51.261+02:00rhapsodieff, thank you so much for your comment. I...rhapsodieff, thank you so much for your comment. I and I am sure everyone that reads my blog appreciate your honesty and sharing your experience. This was something I didn't know and I can honestly say I learned something. You seem to be a good example and role model to others, would you mind sharing more of your experiences on my blog? If so, please drop my an e-mail, you can find my e-mail address on my blog profile.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-30853447782459196462009-12-05T16:25:52.278+02:002009-12-05T16:25:52.278+02:00HIV forces you to make lifestyle choices. To survi...HIV forces you to make lifestyle choices. To survive you have be disciplined. The medications have to be taken at the right time every day without fail. This is called adherence. The health care professionals advise you to exercise and to eat nutritionally balanced meals. If you follow the advice and many HIV positive gay men do then you look very healthy. If you look happy and healthy you appear more attractive.<br /><br />What is not seen is those mornings, or evenings when you take the medications with food as advised and you have what I call "a bounce". In that what has just been put in comes back out because the food you ate had something that disagreed with the medications and you end up having a conversation with the big white telephone in the bathroom. For me the trigger is usually fatty food and it can take days for things to settle again. So tuna and rice because its bland and does not cause an upset, and the virtuous circle of healthy eating is reinforced. Then there are the days when you just feel yukky because of the meds.<br /><br />So in some ways the medications and associated food intolerances enforce a regime that means HIV positive guys can look "buff", "fit" etc, unfortunately this then projects an image that HIV positive guys are more attractive and therefore have more potential partners and this is a desirable state. So in the bug chasers, eyes they want to be like this. They see HIV positive guys as having more "fun".<br /><br />As an HIV positive guy I am frequently "harassed" by bug chasers wanting "the gift". This seems to be the reasoning behind the desire... to look good and attract more potential partners...When in reality if they took control of their lives and ate sensibly and exercised they could achieve these ends with some self discipline.rhapsodieffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-54218900754849223012009-12-02T05:09:41.878+02:002009-12-02T05:09:41.878+02:00Thanks Todd, once again a very insightful comment ...Thanks Todd, once again a very insightful comment as usual. I agree with you on your views on both the Bug Chasers and Gift Givers. I think most of us find it very difficult to understand how both these groups of people rationalize their behavior as to us it's such a bizarre concept.<br /><br />I think education and counseling is key as both a preventative measure and supporting those who are already infected. I do admit my post had somewhat of a judgmental sentiment, but I can't shy away from my initial shock and slight anger when I first learned of this phenomena.<br /><br />Allot of work still needs to be done when it comes to HIV & AIDS. Many people still think it's a gay disease like you pointed out. Let's hope people start waking up to the reality that HIV & AIDS affects everyone, it does not discriminate. I think we all have a responsibility to educate those around us. It only takes one person to make a difference, and like I always, let that one person be you.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-37242576109259180582009-12-01T22:12:54.978+02:002009-12-01T22:12:54.978+02:00Hello Pierre,
Very elegant post and must concur w...Hello Pierre,<br /><br />Very elegant post and must concur with you thoughts on the matter. I hasten you to come at a slightly different conclusion that decreases the divide between where you and I may stand and the mind set of both the bug chasers as well as the gift givers.<br /><br />I must agree with Chris that the Bug Chaser is suffering from low to no self esteem and in that respect, we must focus our efforts on changing the theosophical approach that has been teaching society for thousands of years that gay men and woman are the scourge of this planet. Allowing young gay men and women to come out without feeling the shame or harshness that many suffer due to even the thoughts of losing their family, their friends or their place in society. Many Bug Chasers are young and have yet to truly become at peace with who they are as individuals, including their homosexuality. If we can remove that, our greatest hurdle from the gay and lesbian community, I strongly feel we will undo much destructive behaviors that are suffered by so many within the gay community around the world.<br /><br />As for the Gift Giver, I too am ashamed that this is happening, but I feel we must also understand the way those who finally find that they are one of the millions who are infected with HIV. For many they are normal persons who either took protective measures and suffered due to accidents, or in one night of ecstasy with someone, they find themselves suffering for the remainder of days. As you have indicated HIV is no longer the expeditious death sentence it once was. That does not mean it is not a difficult life regardless. Our bodies were never designed to take on a regular basis the medication that is required to maintain healthy living while infected. Side affects can still be swift and unpredictable and in some cases as debilitating as the infection itself; and that is why living with HIV still requires courage. <br /><br />Those Gift Givers I fear are acting as much out of fear as they remain in pain due to their own infections. Many were not requesting nor were they risky, but it is difficult to face your own life when it takes a turn that one is unwilling to accept or become at peace with. In most cases, those who are willing to grant such an auspicious gift are dying within each day they continue to take a breath and live with their own infection. They may also be acting out of rage because the person who infected them may have dubiously taken action without warning. In any case it is not those Gift Givers that do so in a party environment that shatters the hopes of this world or the lives they take from it; but those who knowingly infect others without warning. These are the persons that I must agree deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law. More than any sentence they may beholden too, I would shackle them to all whom they infect. Forcing them to pay financially as well as personally for the care of every soul they knowingly infect.<br /><br />HIV/AIDS is preventable and therefore it remains each of our personal responsibility to care and protect ourselves. I've met young guys who are coming to terms with their homosexuality and the don't know what we've seen or those experiences of the gay communities before ours. They don't know of the suffering and the millions of souls who could have made a difference in society, but rather their lives succumbed to pain and agony beyond any recognition due to this disease. The last time I posted to my Face Book account that every soul should be tested annually for HIV, I had straight friends tell me how they don't because they are not at risk and young gay men tell me how they know they don't have it! Ignorance is not bliss until you are forced to learn.<br /><br />Pierre - exceptional post and as I said, I feel we must not take such a judgmental stance, but that posts such as this should propel everyone into acceptance: LOVE, HONOR & RESPECT every soul among us for all they can provide positively.<br /><br />Your humble servant - Todd M DobsonTodd M Dobsonhttp://www.tmdobson.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-46324697826179140232009-11-30T23:59:23.825+02:002009-11-30T23:59:23.825+02:00Thanks! I hope you don't mind, but I'm goi...Thanks! I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to add you to my blogroll. :)Heather Leighhttp://www.mylifesubstance.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-55564253650764276492009-11-30T17:18:43.117+02:002009-11-30T17:18:43.117+02:00My pleasure and thank you as well Heather. Good l...My pleasure and thank you as well Heather. Good luck with the chemo, will thinking of you ;-)Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-18459855030514487492009-11-30T07:18:17.119+02:002009-11-30T07:18:17.119+02:00Ok thank you! Of course I will link back both to t...Ok thank you! Of course I will link back both to this post and your site. It should be published some time this week, I plan on scheduling it so I still have stuff going up while I'm in for chemo. :)Heather Leighhttp://www.mylifesubstance.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-3421929317087903012009-11-30T06:36:02.408+02:002009-11-30T06:36:02.408+02:00@ not at all, please do!@ not at all, please do!Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-10728015953344065872009-11-30T04:52:22.329+02:002009-11-30T04:52:22.329+02:00Mind if I link this post?Mind if I link this post?Heather Leighhttp://www.mylifesubstance.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-11619292593555878512009-11-29T12:02:20.210+02:002009-11-29T12:02:20.210+02:00Heather Leigh, it's mind boggling isn't it...Heather Leigh, it's mind boggling isn't it? We live in a strange world, where people don't always realize the consequences of their actions. Let's hope a couple of these people (Bug Chasers) come to their senses before it's too late.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-34450163003419674092009-11-29T11:53:16.584+02:002009-11-29T11:53:16.584+02:00Wow, I couldn't even imagine that this was goi...Wow, I couldn't even imagine that this was going on. As someone who knows people with HIV/AIDS and the effects it has caused on their life....I couldn't even begin to imagine that ANYONE would want this. Thank you for this information. It has been rather eye-opening.Heather Leighhttp://www.mylifesubstance.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-17411239207299624682009-11-28T11:28:41.887+02:002009-11-28T11:28:41.887+02:00HB, thanks. I think we have become complacent whe...HB, thanks. I think we have become complacent when it comes to HIV & AIDS. Maybe it's because it has been with us for so many years and the fact that we have become use to the idea. Every 1 December we observe World Aids Day, but not many people do much more for the cause beyond this.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-28175835056587658852009-11-28T00:32:03.763+02:002009-11-28T00:32:03.763+02:00Bug Chasing have been happening in the US for many...Bug Chasing have been happening in the US for many years. With new laws this subculture has gone underground making it very difficult for authorities to track down the perpetrators. <br /><br />It really is of great concern that this subculture still continues spreading the virus.<br /><br />I thank you Pierre for reminding us of us this. Let's hope we can stop them, educate our GLBT community and halt the spread of HIV.<br /><br />Great blog post and timely with World Aids day coming up!HBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-75199051877056763632009-11-27T10:46:23.256+02:002009-11-27T10:46:23.256+02:00Chris, I agree. One of my friends stated that Bug...Chris, I agree. One of my friends stated that Bug Chasing is believed to be an urban myth in the UK. Whether that's true or not I do not know.<br /><br />People's need to belong and the lengths they'll go to fit in, may be the root of the problem.<br /><br />I sometimes feel we live in a society without compassion, like you said we should listen more closely to the people around us but also extend a helping hand to those in need.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-50758125723017326222009-11-26T22:18:26.739+02:002009-11-26T22:18:26.739+02:00This kind of behavior points to a much deeper psyc...This kind of behavior points to a much deeper psychological problem which is under-rug-swept. We need to start listening to the people around us and allow them to be themselves instead of perpetrating a lifestyle that "requires" us to be a part of a social grouping.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17243791613946888090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-45092035665124583282009-11-25T19:57:43.427+02:002009-11-25T19:57:43.427+02:00ChrisJ, I will go visit the link.
We live in one ...ChrisJ, I will go visit the link.<br /><br />We live in one strange world and I never seize to be amazed and sometimes shocked at what I find. I think that's why blogging is such a great medium - it provides a great platform for people to express themselves, their opinions and to educate. In the process we also find that we learn from other people's blogs, are changed by them and our horizons broaden.<br /><br />I have discovered some great blogs in the last few months, and I always find myself pleasantly surprised when I visit them!Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-90427552410204202292009-11-25T19:45:03.596+02:002009-11-25T19:45:03.596+02:00This is unreal!
Bloggers Unite has an event for W...This is unreal!<br /><br />Bloggers Unite has an event for World Aids Day; this article would make a great addition to it. http://www.bloggersunite.org/event/world-aids-dayChrisJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13139508470517226199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-1802729966888077662009-11-25T19:26:46.567+02:002009-11-25T19:26:46.567+02:00The Mari Rev, thanks for the insight as usual it’s...The Mari Rev, thanks for the insight as usual it’s great to hear from you.<br /><br />I agree it’s a psychiatric disorder that could be very difficult to detect. I however did not see any formal diagnostic reference being made about this apart from reference made to anxiety disorder(s). I wonder why that is? Surely the DSM 4(R) or now DSM 5 should provide for some reference for a diagnosis to be made or at least for identifying the warning signs.<br /><br />I am now even more flabbergasted than before with you stating that you have known about this since the 80’s. Has this really been that well hidden? It’s alarming to say the least!Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-51086472749226749582009-11-25T19:10:09.475+02:002009-11-25T19:10:09.475+02:00In America, knowingly being a "Gift giver&quo...In America, knowingly being a "Gift giver" is considered a felony, like murder and punishable by law. In some cases, even unknowingly being a gift giver can be consider a criminal offense, not unlike manslaughter.<br /> Being "bug chasing" is a fairly recent phenomenon, I cannot state definitively, but personally, I feel it is a form of "Munchhausen syndrome". This is a psychiatric disorder where a person either self inflicts physical injury or illness on themselves or fabricates symptoms of physical injury or mental illness in order to garner the attention of health professionals through treatment or hospitalization. It is a person who feels a deep emotional emptiness that they feel can be fulfilled through the attentive compassion of others.<br />In this case (in my opinion) people who actively try to get HIV wish to garner the attention of health care professionals, benefits given to those with HIV/AIDS and/or the compassion and attention of the gay community in general. It is a sickness that should be treated before they person gets HIV, but sadly, as in many cases, only detectable after the infection/injury has occurred. This is not however a recent phenomenon as in the last few years. I have know bug chasers as well as gift givers from has far back as the late 80's. Both have different forms of psychosis.<br />Gift givers, not unlike rapists or murderers, should be locked away for the safety of society.The Mari Revhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185512981567583563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-13442330340411762812009-11-25T18:16:59.044+02:002009-11-25T18:16:59.044+02:00Michael, it's frightening to say the least. H...Michael, it's frightening to say the least. How a person could do that to themselves or to another person is beyond belief. Yet, there are people like that.<br /><br />I would love to get my hands on the Documentary "The Gift" the trailer of which I loaded to this post. Maybe if one watches the documentary you could get a better insight into why people do this. Reading research findings is one thing but seeing it for yourself is something completely differnt.Bitter Bitcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11990040154381423943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925801430510994170.post-16755722072206155362009-11-25T17:48:34.890+02:002009-11-25T17:48:34.890+02:00It is very scary. I can't even begin to under...It is very scary. I can't even begin to understand the chasers or the gift givers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com